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Postby insanehippie » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:53 pm

-- Brando -- wrote:"Annual drug deaths: tobacco: 395,000, alcohol: 125,000, 'legal' drugs: 38,000, illegal drug overdoses: 5,200, marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?" -- William A. Turnbow

The subsidies are ending! :-) That money should be invested in better crops or pot once/if it's legalised. Pot is the biggest cash crop in Kentucky!

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." --Sir Winston Churchill

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." --Amschel Mayer Rothschild

"The average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty -- and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." -- H.L. Mencken

"The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." --Frank Zappa

"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." --Thomas Jefferson

"The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable." --U. S. Privacy Study Commission, 1977

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." --Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice

"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses." --Albert Einstein

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and thus clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." --H.L. Mencken

"When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws have freedom."


H.L. Mencken also said "he who owns a frying pan owns death."
H.L. Mencken said (I think) "An armed society is a polite society." which is totally true!
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Postby -- Brando -- » Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:48 am

Good ol' Henry Louis Mencken .. had alot of intelligent things to say.

As far as pot being legalized .. I just don't see it, lest it be by violent coup or something. The lesions on the psyche of America caused by white fundamentalist Christian, condescending paranoia are far too deep. The government is too self-absorbed to allow the public to decide for themselves what they wish to put into their bodies. The superstitions and traditional fallacies far outweigh logic in regards to scary and devil-conjuring drugs like marijuana.

The "war on drugs" is the mask of the war on personal freedom.

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Postby ajv099 » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:37 am

A classic favorite of mine: "..I may disagree with what you say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it." - Voltaire
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Postby Almuerzo » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:32 am

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Postby phyre » Sun May 01, 2005 3:05 pm

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Postby Cwew » Tue May 17, 2005 1:43 pm

When was this quote said? Were they activly colleting information on death by Marijuana? I can't believe there are 0. People die eating peanuts (other than choking) there's gotta be at least one death from someone allergic to Marijuana. Also do the alcohol deaths include driving while intoxicated....I'm sure Marijuana kills just as many people that way as alcohol does. Both dull the senses.

I love statistics. =)

As for should it be legalized. I think they have enough junk that can kill us already legalized, what's a few more.

I personally don't smoke pot, or ciggs, or anything, but I don't really give a crap if someone else does, as long as they're not blowing it in my face.

Pot should have the same restrictions as Alcohol. No driving, etc.

Let the people kill themselves if they want to, just keep them from killing me in the process.

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Postby -- Brando -- » Tue May 17, 2005 4:10 pm

Cwew wrote:When was this quote said? Were they activly colleting information on death by Marijuana? I can't believe there are 0. People die eating peanuts (other than choking) there's gotta be at least one death from someone allergic to Marijuana. Also do the alcohol deaths include driving while intoxicated....I'm sure Marijuana kills just as many people that way as alcohol does. Both dull the senses.

I love statistics. =)

As for should it be legalized. I think they have enough junk that can kill us already legalized, what's a few more.

I personally don't smoke pot, or ciggs, or anything, but I don't really give a crap if someone else does, as long as they're not blowing it in my face.

Pot should have the same restrictions as Alcohol. No driving, etc.

Let the people kill themselves if they want to, just keep them from killing me in the process.

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-- Brando -- wrote:"Annual drug deaths: tobacco: 395,000, alcohol: 125,000, 'legal' drugs: 38,000, illegal drug overdoses: 5,200, marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?" -- William A. Turnbow
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I won't argue with ya on the driving thing. Cars don't mix with any drug. People die driving on Prozac let alone drunk or stoned.
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Postby insanehippie » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:05 am

In the stats I've looked at, whenever someone "died of marijuana" there was always something stronger and greater quantity in their bloodstream. Be it alcohol, prescription drugs, etc.

I've only seen reports of one true case of someone dying due to pot, and that was when a bale of hemp fell from the second story of a barn onto a man. Not a direct killing by pot, but close enough.

The toxicity in pot is so weak that you'd have to smoke many pounds of it to get poisoning. No one I know has smoked a few pounds at once sitting.

BUt I totally agree with what you've said. If someone wants to smoke pot (when/if it becomes legal) in their own home and they don't get into heavy machinery, then go ahead. Smoke your heart out. THe snack food and pizza industry would love it. Ensure purity of the pot like we do with alcohol and tobacco and it will be fine.

I'm still against hard drugs (heroin, coke, crack, php, ludes, etc.) being legal since they are too addictive and cause many of their users to go nuts.

Yes pot dulls the senses, but most people who are thathigh won't be able to find their car, unlike drunks who think they are good enough to drive while totally drunk. With alcohol some people get cocky and their conscience shuts down, their good reasoning skills stop. With pot you lose the energy to do anything at all, including stupid stuff.

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Cwew wrote:When was this quote said? Were they activly colleting information on death by Marijuana? I can't believe there are 0. People die eating peanuts (other than choking) there's gotta be at least one death from someone allergic to Marijuana. Also do the alcohol deaths include driving while intoxicated....I'm sure Marijuana kills just as many people that way as alcohol does. Both dull the senses.

I love statistics. =)

As for should it be legalized. I think they have enough junk that can kill us already legalized, what's a few more.

I personally don't smoke pot, or ciggs, or anything, but I don't really give a crap if someone else does, as long as they're not blowing it in my face.

Pot should have the same restrictions as Alcohol. No driving, etc.

Let the people kill themselves if they want to, just keep them from killing me in the process.

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Postby -- Brando -- » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:55 pm

The thing with pot in my case is not that it dulls my senses when I did used to drive on it (slaps self), it's just that I get inhumanly paranoid while driving about driving. I start to think every car following me is a cop and I second-guess myself on stupid common sense things like "how long should I stay stopped at this stop sign" or "how should I go about making this lane change" or something like that.

I've driven while stoned, drunk, coked up and trippin' on dextromethorphan before (not at the same time). If I had to rate them as to how much my driving was inhibited it would be something from least to greatest:

1. Coke. If anything it makes you more alert.
2. Weed.
3. Drunk. This is horrible and I'll never do it again.
4. Dexxed. My god I don't know HOW I did this. Jesse, you might recall my cough med days. When I drove on this shit, I had a 6AM shift at BB and decided to stay up all night and figured the trip would wear off by the time 6AM rolled around. My idiot mistake. It stayed strong probably because of the SSRI antidepressants I was on at the time and I had to drive my trippin' ass on down 295 fucked up like nobody's business. It was like being in a nightmare. Never again, dude.

But with this I'm not saying that everyone should keep some spare white lines on their dashboard for the road, but I just felt like making that silly list. I'll reiterate, NO substances mix with cars or hazardous machinery. It's just fuckin' dumb.
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Postby Cwew » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:03 pm

an ex of mine says she's driven on coke, weed, X, acid, shrooms.

She says acid and shrooms are the scariest (well no shit, when the car starts melting, and birds flying by start singing Stairway to Heaven I'd be scared too.)

I'm just amazed she's still alive. Of course she might not be now, it's been a few years since we've talked.

We tried to be friends after we broke it off, but I'm fairly anti-drugs, and she's drugged up so we didn't mix well. We both liked eachother as people when she wasn't using, and I wasn't telling her to stop but when she partied I left, and she started partying more and more so we quit talking.

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